Opened my Corduba Enforcer this morning....

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..... to clean the crystal, (success, looks great) and found a Sellita SW500!!!!


My Invicta Corduba Enforcer ETA Valjoux 7750 watch contains a Sellita SW500 movement!!!! You may insert all the foul words you can think of to describe my mood right here.




WTH?????? Invicta strike again???



*Original poster hkshooter*
 
Opened my Corduba Enforcer this morning....

WTH indeed. I have no issue with the SW500, but WTH !!. Another reason I just steer clear of them, cannot trust anything that comes out of their talking heads. Did I mention, WTH !!!!
 
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Opened my Corduba Enforcer this morning....

Bummer
 
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I have model #13684 and wondering if they pull this switch on ones without the see through case backs?
 
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Not good at all.
 
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At first I thought TWR swapped it and I've been corresponding with them all day about it. They insist they didn't change the movement and would have lost money on the repair if they had. I feel like I'm losing my mind because I would swear I saw an ETA with my own eyes before sending it to TWR in spite of their insistence that they didn't swap it. Thinking back on it I'm beginning to believe them. The rotor on all 7750's I've seen has a distinct shape and this one is shaped differently. And I've seen a lot of movements and watches since then so could be confusing with another. If they are correct then that means the watch came new from Invicta with the SW500 because I bought it new from an online retailer. Only if the rotor will swap between the 7750 and the SW500 would it lend credence that the ebauche was swapped during repair. I do not know if this is possible or not.
 
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I have the model above still BNIB wrapped like a mummy all I did was check the functions and let it run for a few days, I'm almost tempted to crack it open to see what is inside because it states everywhere it has the Valjoux 7750. I have seen sites state a watch could have either or inside but Invicta does not disclose any such thing that I have seen.

http://www.christopherward.com//c8-kvkt-mk2.html

Technical
Diameter: 44mm
Height: 11.5mm
Weight: 87g
Calibre: Sellita SW200 (or ETA 2824-2) - stock dependent
Water Resistance: 5 ATM
Strap: 22mm
Vibrations: 28800 per hour
Timing tolerance: +2)/-2) seconds per day
 
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This only gets better.
I just checked my 7750 pro diver. Guess what I found. Uh huh, SW500. I'm so pissed I could spit nails!
 
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Starting to wonder, does that have a see through or solid case back?
 
Opened my Corduba Enforcer this morning....

I know this isn't going to be any comfort to you but... When ETA needs more movements than they can produce they often go to Sellita and have them make some(SW500)for them. They are interchangeable and are virtually the same movement. Same parts just built in two different factories.

To some folks it really doesn't matter. To other it certainly does. One thing is for sure, Invicta (and others) SHOULD label the watch truthful... be it an ETA Valjoux 7750 or a Sellita SW500.
 
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The Pro Diver is see through. Has the same rotor as the corduba but it's hard to see the nomenclature on the movement. Removing the case back makes it easy with magnification but holding it right, with my Optivisor, glasses, and a LED flashlight I can clearly see the Sellita logo and the SW500.

It's upside down under the balance wheel.
 
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They should have some type of disclosure like the example I posted from CW that it could be either or dependent on stock, something so simple. You would think to cover their own butts to avoid the charges of deception by stating misinformation on the description.
 
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Is it possible some production runs had the 7750 and then subsequent versions have the SW500?
 
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You are right. And I like the SW500 movement. What's got me pissed is feeling like I've been deceived. If they had declared the watch to have the SW500 or even possibly both, as in the post above, I'd have no issue. But no, I've been thinking for months I was the proud owner of watches with real ETA movements in them only to find out we've all been lied to. To some people ETA adds value. So this just makes the questionable value of a lowly Invicta that much lower. And I agree, truthful labeling and sales tactics would have avoided my disappointment. After all, they have no problem selling the SW500 watches and talking about them. So why NOT declare ALL of them as such, if that's what they are.

My head hurts.
And right now I don't even like cake.
 
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Is it possible some production runs had the 7750 and then sunsequent versions have the SW500? Absolutely. I've seen it before but disclosure, like Mike says above, should be the rule, not the exception.
I had a Pro Diver FB1068 with an NH35A in it. Lo and behold when I went to replace it I can find nothing but NH25 autos, in the same model number watch. No disclosure but it's a $40 watch so who cares. This isn't SII or a cheap movement so to me, and I'd think some others, it matters. For the perceived prestige and the LOUD selling points of the talking heads on TV about the 7750, that's what should be in the watch. If not, they should say so.
 
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hk..i feel for you, man. I know your passion for watches. is there anyone at invicta you could email/ mail /facebook this finding to? Customer service, ryan, justin, jill.??. Did you get the watch on Evine? Any chance THEY are in the wrong for misrepresentation if THEY knew ?
 
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I've already emailed Invicta, Ryan Johnson, and Evine CS. I got the Pro Diver from Evine so that's what involves them. I'll have to see what floats to the top. Meanwhile, I'm teetering on the edge of swearing off of Invicta watches for life. I don't feel like I can trust a thing they or Evine's talking heads say about them. And that sucks. Trying to not make an emotional decision here. It's just DAMN!!!
 
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Opened my Corduba Enforcer this morning....

If they do this with something so obvious as a movement, I wonder about the space rock material and if it is Gibeon meteorite or from another source .
 
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Dude...if this happened to me I'd box it up and travel 2 hrs to the HQ and get in front of Eyal...of course that's be and I tend to burn bridges that way....I actually napalm them at times. However, I know that's probably not feasible but HQ DEFINITELY needs to hear about it. I'm sure because of your post they'll be aware. Now the questions comes what will be done about it. THis should be interesting. Please keep us posted.
 
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