The Iron Wolf by Pramzius

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The Iron Wolf by Pramzius - Legendary Watches


Tough yet elegant military watches. Medieval legend, a modern military machine and a watch that ties modernity and antiquity together.

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A Medieval legend, a modern military machine and the watch that brings modernity and antiquity together. The Pramzius Iron Wolf watch tells the circa 720-year-old story of the founding of Vilnius, Lithuania and brings to bear a watch ready to be the official timekeeper of the Wolf Infantry Fighting Vehicle of Lithuania’s modern NATO ground forces.
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Because legends are made; not born -- Roughly 720 years ago the Grand Duke Gediminas stopped to take a rest near the Vilnia River after a successful day of hunting. He fell into a deep sleep and dreamt of a mighty Iron Wolf standing firm on the crest of a hill and baying with the strength of a hundred wolves. When he woke, he sought the council of his priest to interpret the dream and he told him this:

"What is destined for the ruler and the State of Lithuania, is thus: The Iron Wolf represents a castle and a city which will be established by you on this site. This city will be the capital of the Lithuanian lands and the dwelling of their rulers, and the glory of their deeds shall echo throughout the world."

And so, it was as Gediminas founded the great city of Vilnius named for the Vilnia river.
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Pramzius brings back military meets elegant and offers a timepiece truly worthy of legend and a new legend in the field. Tactical watches with precision chronographs, and open-heart automatics that offer mother of pearl and full lume dials are just the beginning.

Every aspect of the Iron Wolf ties back to the legend and the vehicle it represents. Anti-reflective sapphire crystal protecting a 10 ATM 316l stainless steel military-grade timepiece with unidirectional rotating bezel marked off by the teeth of the wolf, sandwich dial options, and custom-made art on the case back inspired by the Iron Wolf legend are just some of the features of this exceptional timepiece.
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Genuine Mother of Pearl, Genuine Carbon Fiber and Full Lume Sandwich
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Custom Bracelet, Handmade Leather and NATO Nylon


The legend of The Iron Wolf is ingrained into the history of Lithuania and its national pride. So, it made perfect sense when the Lithuanian military sought a new IFV for its ground forces the vehicle be named The Wolf. And after 15 years of importing watches from Lithuania, building a true military timepiece inspired by the ancient legend and the peacekeeping field vehicle of today was all but inevitable.

The teeth on the rotating bezel are the bite of the Iron Wolf. Gunsights on the fully functional sub dials and on the second hand on the chrono speak to the Wolf Fighting Vehicle along with the gun turret embedded in the crown.
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We incorporate many subtle and not-so-subtle elements into the watch to illustrate its DNA as a Military watch.

The fully functional subdials on both the automatic and chrono are inspired by gun sights and on the chrono there are crosshairs at the end of the sweep second hand.

Embedded in the crown is a gun turret which also speaks to the infantry vehicle.
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Pramzius uses 15 individual silk-screen layers of lume in all of our watches and the Iron Wolf is no exception. We use only true Swiss Super Luminova. The two-tone sandwich dial version comes with a fully luminous dial. All other models come with top-quality lume at all the key indication points.
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To complete the story of the Iron Wolf on the watch, we commissioned special, custom caseback art inspired by the imagery associated with the Iron Wolf legend.
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The official logo of the Wolf vehicle is on the dial of every execution. Once you put The Iron Wolf on your wrist, you will understand how new legends come to be.
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We searched far and wide for the right packaging for the Iron Wolf. We wanted something that fit well with the Iron Wolf being a military watch. But we also like packaging that can be used for more than one purpose. We are so happy with what we were able to create. The packaging is a combination of the highest quality materials, including a canvas outer covering in cammo style. What we love about it is the ingenious way it makes the interior easy to access in more than one way and it can be used as a travel case for two watches and other accessories. To us, it is ready to be thrown in any soldier's duffel bag.


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Following our successful campaigns for the Pramzius Fall of the Berlin Wall Watch and the Trans-Siberian convertible pocket watch, we are "over the moon" to offer our third watch for your consideration — The Iron Wolf. We thank everyone so much who helped make the dream of the Fall of the Berlin Wall Watch come true. We were blown away by the success and amazing feedback on that watch. It was an amazing experience. We hope you enjoy our Iron Wolf campaign, engage with us again, and can join us as we make this third Pramzius timepiece a reality.
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We aren't the World's 1st anything and we aren't trying to be. We aren't even the first watch to incorporate part of the Berlin Wall. That was Romain Jerome. And you can own one for the small sum of $15,000. We would absolutely LOVE to be the first watch you think about putting on in the morning. But we will leave the real firsts of the world to people like Neil Armstrong and Marie Curie.
  • We have no interest in "disrupting the industry" or disrupting anything for that matter. All we want to do is build quality watches with a great story that we like and hope you like too.
  • We aren't trying to create some pricing structure that "cuts out the middle man" or makes it sound like you are getting a better deal than you are. As watch distributors and manufacturers, we believe distributors play a vital role in the industry and it is perfectly okay for them to make a profit. We hope to have distributors all over the world some day. We already have distributors in the UK and Canada and are in negotiations with Singapore. Our goal is to build a great watch at a fair price — nothing more.
  • We aren't interested in categories. We don't want to be exclusively dive watches or pilot watches or military watches or dress watches — well, you get the idea. If you are having a hard time putting Pramzius into a category, that makes us smile. We want every watch to be an event and we are perfectly okay if the next one looks absolutely nothing like the last one.
If these are the things you are NOT looking for in a watch either, then Pramzius just may be the brand for you. And we are perfectly okay with the fact that it isn't the brand for everybody.
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You can't get very far into any guide to best practices in crowdfunding that they don't tell you to write your project in first person. The backers need to connect with the creator. I get that. And "we" can make you sound like a bigger organization than you are. I get that too.

But I can't in good conscience litter this campaign with "I". And if I have given you the impression we are a big organization, boy did I fail on that score too.

What I will tell you is there are a lot more people than "I" who have brought this project this far — not just the people who actually work at our company. There is a group of friends and colleagues, most of whom have no financial stake in this whatsoever, whose ideas, guidance and feedback were invaluable in this process. I call them the "Pramzius Brain Trust." They deserve far better than "I" — both in these prose and in my gratitude.
Risks and challenges


We are on our third Kickstarter watch, with the first two successfully funded, manufactured and delivered. Also our company has been in the watch business for the better part of two decades. We know the watch business and we know what it takes to build a successful watch. We won't let you down. That said, all watch production comes with risks. The watches you are viewing in these photos and videos are prototypes of what will become the final product. At least some minor changes will be made. We will also be looking for feedback from our backers. Our goal is to produce 100 to 200 of each dial. This project should be completed by the end of April, 2020. However, unforeseen things can and do occur. If there are any delays we will promptly inform our backers. You can rest assured that we will keep you informed every step of the way as you can see from the updates on our first project.
Learn about accountability on KickstarterEnvironmental commitments

Visit our Environmental Resources Center to learn how Kickstarter encourages sustainable practices.Long-lasting design


Our watches are built to last. If the owner properly cares for and services our watches they can last decades. Beyond this, it is unusual for someone to simply throw away a quality watch, even if it is in need of repair. Watches are one of the few remaining products where repair is both possible and cost-effective.
Reusability and recyclability


Every part of a watch can be recycled, either through traditional means or as parts for other watches.
Sustainable Distribution


We have reduced the size and weight of our packaging while maintaining the functionality we would looking for. This reduces shipping weight and material usage.

Questions about this project? Check out the FAQ
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The Pramzius watch brand is owned by the Détente Watch Group. We are a family-owned and operated business that has been importing watches...See moreSupport
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$310.00 price difference vs direct and KS.

This is why I don't patronize this brand and other companies with elevator prices who have no structure or stability. Same watch for $699.00 on their site while this KS campaign is going on. :banghead: Even when Aragon did Kickstarter they had a link taking you to the KS campaign on their own website.

Price gouging is a term referring to when a seller spikes the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair, and is considered exploitative, potentially to an unethical extent.

https://www.r2awatches.com/iron-wolf...n-heart-watch/

$699.00

https://www.r2awatches.com/brands/pramzius/


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Expected release date is Jan/Feb
Iron Wolf Strap - Included: RequiredIron Wolf Strap Gunner Iron Wolf Strap Infantry
Additional Strap:None Iron Wolf - Gunner (+$39) Iron Wolf - Infantry (+$39)

Pramzius

Iron Wolf Full Lume Military Open Heart Watch P712302
(Expected release date is Jan/Feb)

Iron Wolf Strap - Included:
Iron Wolf Strap Gunner
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Subtotal:$699.00


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Get the watch at Kickstarter . Don't know why there selling this at $699. Agree Mike what you are saying. Their prices are over inflated for mostly NH35 movements. They treat their brand like they're exclusive.
 
I wouldn't give them $200.00 for it on KS just out of principle.



Get the watch at Kickstarter . Don't know why there selling this at $699. Agree Mike what you are saying. Their prices are over inflated for mostly NH35 movements. They treat their brand like they're exclusive.

I never mentioned the movement. I was looking at these watches back in 2019 and thinking how crazy the price was. The first video presentation is from 2019. A difference of $319.00 for the same watches on KS is price gauging by the same seller. That should have been adjusted when this KS campaign launched.

How can anyone justify almost twice the price with a straight face. It doesn't seem very ethical to me, but then again the watch industry is a swamp anyhow and extreme care should be taken wherever you tread.

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I think I read less than 1% of that, lol. But gotta go to work tonight anyway. Keep watch, watchers!
 
In general with this company it's NH35 movements. Nothing wrong with the movement. This watch has the Miyota open heart movement. For ex: The Vostok Energia watch with an NH35 in it cost $800. Insane price. Nice watch, but I would never pay $800 for it.
 
You're missing my point. I understand about this brand is off the charts with their price structure. With VE there are extra sets of hands in the pie who need to get their slice, so that is baked into the price. I've never seen a live active KS campaign direct from VE doing what this P brand is doing. Same seller and one is double the price for the same watches. I wonder if KS would have something to say about that. Wing had a direct link to KS on this one and did not have two different prices going at the same time on separate sites. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2142711708/the-worlds-1st-flat-tritium-tube-swiss-movt-titani
 
Mike I understand your point. I never saw a company sell their watch almost double while on a Kickstarter campaign. I can see it after the campaign. I just threw in other comments.
 
Just saw this thread... Next Kickstarter we will make sure the site links to the KS when it is live. Honestly, we should have done that when we had this one live and that was an error. I'm not sure what to say about the difference between our regular retail and the KS price. The KS price is supposed to be the best price you can get and we work hard to make sure we stay above that when the watches come out. You are paying less because you are funding the production.

We are human and we make mistakes, but we are not interested gouging anyone. We offer quite a long pre-order period for our existing customers prior to Kickstarter and then Kickstarter as well as Indiegogo In Demand. There is ample opportunity to get our watches at a lower price. I think if within a week or two of the watches coming out we had much lower prices everywhere there would be more complaints. Pricing is one of the most difficult decisions you can make with any product. We do keep our prices at a higher retail on the site, but we offer many ways to get the watches at a lower price.

Anyway, I consider all constructive feedback to be a positive thing. roadwarrior clearly doesn't like our pricing approach, but he was never rude or insulting so I thank him for that and for his feedback. We want to do right by all our customers.
 
The fact that they are asking $699 on their site turns me off enough that even if I liked the watch I'd pass. With anything just tell me the price you need and I can pay it or not. I hate the games. Now when I get a car I politely tell the salesman I won't play games and sit there. I do my research and know the price that most sell the car for. Tell me what your best price is and if I can do it great and if not I move on or look at a different car. I told that to a guy once and he came back with a stupid price so I told him thanks and I'd pass and started to leave. Then he said he would go back to the manager and see what he could do. I reminded him I wasn't going to play that game and i appreciated his time and left. I guess I'm at the point in my life that I won't play games, I'll be polite but very upfront and professional. Time is money but money is even more moneyish lol I wish Saturn was still a brand...here's the price..the end
 

PRAMZIUS - IRON WOLF WATCH​

Oct 9, 2022

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PRAMZIUS
IRON WOLF - VILKAS
SUPER LUMINOVA FULL LUME DIAL - BLACK PVD COATED BEZEL
LE 258/720
JAPAN MIYOTA 82S7 OPEN HEART - 21 JEWEL- AUTOMATIC MOVEMENT
100M/300 FEET WATER RESISTANT
SCREW DOWN CROWN
120 CLICK UNIDIRECTIONAL BEZEL
SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL WITH ANTI-REFLECTIVE COATING
SUPERLUMINOVA HOUR MARKERS AND HANDS
44MM CASE DIAMETER
12MM CASE THICKNESS
22MM LUG WIDTH
52MM LUG TO LUG
EXHIBITION CASE BACK
CAMO CASE EQUIPPED WITH NATO STRAP, DOG TAGS, LEATHER BUND STRAP
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