I think I may have shared this with you before, and if I did and it sounds familiar half way through, just dismiss if from your queue. A very dear friend of mine, who at one time owned BDWF, had, over the years, bought enough Invicters (75 or 80, I believe) that he got a real sense of how well they worked (or DIDN'T work), so he coined a phrase/meme that has stayed with me for the last few years: INVICTA = CRAPSHOOT. (And I suppose the "Bawx 'o chawkletts" meme from Fowest Gump applies, too, but I like the simplicity of what my pal wrote better.) If Invicter could somehow bring their QC and CS into the 21st century, they really COULD be a respected, even revered company. (Or NOT.) Thus Endeth the Sermon... ; )