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Seems like it is just a twist of the word dragon,nothing more.[br][br][br][br]http://watchintyme.com/thread/2398)/new-dial-color?page=2[br][br][br]http://watchintyme.com/thread/23996/name[br]
 
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agree....with wing's love of the dragon motif;it's a natural[br][br]great looking watches....as long as he makes some unpolished ones as promised i'll keep buying
 
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[quote source=/post/2957)4/thread timestamp=)44959))48 author=@roadwarrior]I'm wondering if once the Aragon Web site is up and running ,the Andorid USA site will eventually go away and all warranty request and so forth will be done though the one web site,or it remain up and running. [/quote]Not sure, good question Mike.
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I too was very excited when I reveived the email from Wing. Looking forward to pricing and availability ASAP [br][br]Congrats to Mr Liang on the launch of his new brand
 
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[quote source=/post/294877/thread timestamp=)449438873 author=@nando]That 9))) automatic Driver has my name all over it......Oh yessssss! 8D [/quote]I assume you do not have the Android versions of the same watch??? just asking[br]
 
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[quote source=/post/295))8/thread timestamp=)4495))495 author=@skyraider]Just an amazing group of watches !! Thanks very much for posting Wing. Much appreciated. /Greg[/quote][p]Just remember,i'm assuming you may have the original version of the Android Miyota 9))) of this watch excellentwatch great timekeeper[/p][p][br][/p][p]but the fake allen screws have a tendency to disappear without notice,and at $5 bucks a time.Tip I took mine to a watchmaker who removed the last[/p][p]six of them and just deepened them a tad and I have not had a problem.I purchased 9 of them and I have the 2 Android versions Champage and Red dials[/p][p]but they look like Aragons. Just saying[br][/p]
 
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[quote source=/post/295)98/thread timestamp=)4495))7)5 author=@roadwarrior]Sure the Aragons look like their Android siblings, they have the same DNA engineered by their creator.[/quote][p]Historical example of the word ARAGON[/p][p] [br][/p][p]Ellis states that the Queen of Aragon ordained that six times a day was the proper rule in legitimate marriage?[br][br]Once a King always a King once a nights enough.[br][/p]
 
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[quote source=/post/296)88/thread author=@shiner2348 timestamp=)449647952][quote author=@roadwarrior timestamp=)4495))7)5 source=/post/295)98/thread]Sure the Aragons look like their Android siblings, they have the same DNA engineered by their creator.[/quote][p]Historical example of the word ARAGON[/p][p] [br][/p][p]Ellis states that the Queen of Aragon ordained that six times a day was the proper rule in legitimate marriage?[br][br]Once a King always a King once a nights enough.[br][/p][/quote]Means nothing ,anyone can read anything they like to into a name or anything else for that matter ,all this is just old history,nothing new here ,no man is a king in this industry.Give my regards toAlain,and tell him eyE hope he is feeling better.
 
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Congratulations on the new brand Wing! Wishing you all the success.
 
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[quote source=/post/296)79/thread timestamp=)449644)2) author=@shiner2348][quote source=/post/294877/thread timestamp=)449438873 author=@nando]That 9))) automatic Driver has my name all over it......Oh yessssss! 8D [/quote]I assume you do not have the Android versions of the same watch??? just asking[br][/quote][strong]Well if you put my Android Divemaster Enforcer 9))) automatic and my Android 2)) automatic together I guess I somewhat have that piece, but not really, so that's why I want it, plus I want at least one watch from Wing's new Brand to join my collection. 8-) [/strong][br]
 
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[quote source=/post/295)9)/thread author=@darkoverlord timestamp=)449498)5)]. . .[br][br]So we have some virtuoso and museum divers, a but of great colors, what looks to be Val 775)s. [br][br]. . .[/quote]ETA 775)'s would greatly surprise me considering ETA is reducing its supply of movements outside Swatch Group each year with a schedule to reach ZERO by 2)2). That's not a drop dead cliff, it's year-by-year reduction using decreasing percentages of production from (IIRC) 2))9 or 2))) volumes. If you don't already have a contract with ETA for movements, you're not going to get any, and those that do are getting increasingly reduced volumes. I'd wager what we're seeing is a Sellita SW 5)), which is an ETA 775) clone. I mention Sellita as they're the only Swiss manufacture alternative to ETA with the production volumes and similar movement price points. The other Swiss movement alternatives are substantially more expensive from exceptionally low volume firms. Even Soprod (owned by Festina Group), which has started to supply their A)) movement as an alternative to the ETA 2892A2, is much lower volume compared to Sellita. The only other Swiss Made 775) alternate I'm aware of would be the Eterna 39 which they've started offering, and it's supposedly form, fit and function identical. Ironic as Eterna created ETA circa )932 to make their own watch movements (ETA = ETernA), even though the 775) was absorbed into ETA's movement portfolio from Valjoux, just as they absorbed selected Unitas and Peseux calibers, keeping their original caliber numbers and branding them as ETA. I have doubts though that they could provide Sellita SW 5)) pricing as lower production volumes drive higher prices. The third possibility is a stockpile of 775) movements that were accumulated and shelved for future use, which would work for a some limited edition models, but it's not a long-term solution. Eventually the stockpile runs dry.[br][br]Notes about Sellita:[br]Sellita has been a (very real) Swiss movement maker for some time. They were a contract house doing production for ETA for many years. That enabled them stepping into the void Swatch Group's ETA was creating very quickly, a move that apparently surprised ETA and strained Sellita's relationship with Swatch Group. I have several Sellita powered watches. While the whole movements are completely interchangeable, a few of the movement parts are not. From a form, fit, function and usage, including the hand-wind feel, you wouldn't know them from ETA except by looking at the manufacturer's marque on the movement bridge, and with the SW 2))-), taking note of 26 jewels on its rotor, vs 25 jewels marked on an ETA 2824-2 rotor. The 25j SW 5)) chronograph movement is form, fit, function, and user feel identical to the 25j ETA 775). It's a clone like the SW 2))-) and ETA 2824-2. The designs for all ETA's 28)), 2892A2, 775) and 6497 movement families are all public domain now, with any intellectual properties (i.e. patents) associated with them having expired long ago.[br][br]It will be very interesting to see what Wing does with (real) Swiss movements, and which ones he uses, as Aragon grows and develops. In addition to the SII (Seiko Instruments) and Miyota 9))) family, I'm hoping he can offer decently priced models with (real) Swiss movements in them.[br][br]John[br]
 
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[quote source=/post/295663/thread timestamp=)44958725) author=@robertsr)8))]How long do you think the current site will be live? I still use it a lot to get historical information.[/quote]It's easy enough to set up an alias from an old domain name to a new one, and it would be seamless to the end user until they looked at the URL in their browser and realized it was no longer on the domain they typed in. If you want to see how this works, use the new domain name [a href=[url]http://www.aragonwatch.com]http://www.aragonwatch.com[/url][/a]and it automagically takes you to [a href=[url]http://www.android-usa.com]http://www.android-usa.com[/url][/a]. They're aliases within the Internet's Domain Name Servers (DNSs) for the same numeric IP address and either vectors you to the same web server. Just flip that around within the Internet's DNS system, make a simple name change in the web server software, and suddenly the very same server with the same numeric IP address will show aragonwatch.com in web browsers. This aliasing can go on nearly indefinitely provided the domain names are renewed, and indeed, a number of very large corporations do this with common variants of their corporate names, just to keep domain name squatters from registering one and using it to for all manner of mischief (usually intended to convince the target to cough up $$$$$ to buy it from them).[br][br]John
 
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[quote source=/post/296288/thread timestamp=)449676)5) author=@roadwarrior][quote source=/post/296)88/thread timestamp=)449647952 author=@shiner2348][p]Historical example of the word ARAGON[/p][p] [br][/p][p]Ellis states that the Queen of Aragon ordained that six times a day was the proper rule in legitimate marriage?[br][br]Once a King always a King once a nights enough.[br][/p][/quote]Means nothing ,anyone can read anything they like to into a name or anything else for that matter ,all this is just old history,nothing new here ,no man is a king in this industry.Give my regards toAlain,and tell him eyE hope he is feeling better.[/quote][p]Once a King always a King once a nights enough.[/p][p][br][/p][p]It's a joke [/p][p](sense of humour reqd[br][/p]
 
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[quote timestamp=)4497)9323 author=@sailor63 source=/post/296736/thread][quote source=/post/296288/thread author=@roadwarrior timestamp=)449676)5)]Means nothing ,anyone can read anything they like to into a name or anything else for that matter ,all this is just old history,nothing new here ,no man is a king in this industry.Give my regards toAlain,and tell him eyE hope he is feeling better.[/quote][p]Once a King always a King once a nights enough.[/p][p][br][/p][p]It's a joke [/p][p](sense of humour reqd[br][/p][/quote]Speak for yourself twice a knight is better.
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