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  • Need some help on Seiko's "Monster" bracelet parts

    While putting on one of my Seiko Monsters the other day the bracelet came apart. Seems a couple of the "tubes\collars" are missing from their pins. While researching for some replacements I found Esslinger sells some aftermarket equivalents that should fit. (they call them pipes as does Seiko) My problem is that I need to know the exact size in millimeters of the tubes\collars that fit the pins.

    Anyone know what the size would be? The pins are 19 mm long and the the tubes\collars\pipes come in three different diameters: .90 mm, .95 mm, and 1.10 mm. Which one would be the correct size? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Here is the link to Esslinger product page:

    https://www.esslinger.com/watch-band...riction-pipes/
    Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey...

  • #2
    I've looked for a few hours Joel. I couldn't find any spares to measure to help with the size. I did send a few feelers out to SCA in Mahwah NJ and a few others for specs, etc. This place below looks like your best bet to source the correct pipe and pins + collar length and diameter. I'll keep looking and if I hear something I will put it here. Best of luck.

    If your Seiko watch band spring bars and or pipes and pins is not shown contact us and we will see if it is available. request a quote and we will see if it is available.


    https://www.watchbands.com/departmen...=2&p=4&i=9&d=9

    This could be a possibility, but best to check with them to be sure.

    https://www.watchbands.com/Products/81607719-Pins__AU01380N.aspx


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    • #3
      Mike thanks for posting this I went through all of mine and I couldn’t find a single spare and it’s good to know where I can get a few extras

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      • roadwarrior
        roadwarrior commented
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        You're welcome BD. I feel the same way. I think I'll order a few myself if I find the specs. Those pesky little things have a knack of getting away no matter how careful you are.

    • #4
      Marc just got back to me. He actually recommended the same seller, but for the actual individual links that come with the pin & collar.

      Tue, Jan 14, 2020 9:02 am

      Hello Mike: https://www.watchbands.com/Products/...49X8JG-LK.aspx

      Might as well just get a link; it comes with the pin and collar.

      I scoured Seiko’s parts site, and they do not give the PN of the pins/collars.

      Thanks,

      Marc Frankel, President

      www.longislandwatch.com

      631-470-0762

      https://www.watchbands.com/Products/20mm-Stainless-Steel-links-49X8JG-SOLD-PER-LINK__49X8JG-LK.aspx


      Genuine Seiko, Silver Tone Stainless Steel Metal, 20mm, Silver Tone Links, SEIKO MONSTER SOLD PER LINK
      • 100% Authentic WatchbandsWe are authorized dealers of the brands we sell.
      • UPCDoes Not Apply
      • MPN49X8JG-LK
      $25.00

      The thing is, if I needed more than one pin or link at $25.00 a pop, it makes more cents to buy the whole bracelet from Marc for $59.95.

      https://www.longislandwatch.com/Seiko_49X8JG_Watch_Bracelet_p/49x8jg.htm

      Seiko Monster Bracelet, Brushed Finish, Solid Link #49X8JG (20mm)

      Seiko Monster series OEM stainless steel watch bracelet with a brushed finish. Features a dual push button, deployant closure with security clasp. Size by removing links with fine adjustments on the clasp. Very robust construction. Made to fit 1st and 2nd generation Seiko Orange Monster, Black Monster, etc.

      Note: It is recommended that you purchase a new set of Seiko C200FS pins for this bracelet if you don't have a set.
      Watch Features:
      • Color: Silver
      • Material: Stainless Steel Solid Links
      • Finish: Brushed
      • Ends: Straight
      • Length: N/A
      • Closure: Push Button Deployant Clasp
      "Flesh could not keep its glamour, nor eyes their sheen. They would go to nothing soon. But monsters are forever"



      “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
      If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.
      As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide".
      Abraham Lincoln

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      • #5
        Originally posted by roadwarrior View Post
        Marc just got back to me. He actually recommended the same seller, but for the actual individual links that come with the pin & collar.

        Tue, Jan 14, 2020 9:02 am

        Hello Mike: https://www.watchbands.com/Products/...49X8JG-LK.aspx

        Might as well just get a link; it comes with the pin and collar.

        I scoured Seiko’s parts site, and they do not give the PN of the pins/collars.

        Thanks,

        Marc Frankel, President

        www.longislandwatch.com

        631-470-0762

        https://www.watchbands.com/Products/20mm-Stainless-Steel-links-49X8JG-SOLD-PER-LINK__49X8JG-LK.aspx


        Genuine Seiko, Silver Tone Stainless Steel Metal, 20mm, Silver Tone Links, SEIKO MONSTER SOLD PER LINK
        • 100% Authentic WatchbandsWe are authorized dealers of the brands we sell.
        • UPCDoes Not Apply
        • MPN49X8JG-LK
        $25.00

        The thing is, if I needed more than one pin or link at $25.00 a pop, it makes more cents to buy the whole bracelet from Marc for $59.95.

        https://www.longislandwatch.com/Seiko_49X8JG_Watch_Bracelet_p/49x8jg.htm

        Seiko Monster Bracelet, Brushed Finish, Solid Link #49X8JG (20mm)

        Seiko Monster series OEM stainless steel watch bracelet with a brushed finish. Features a dual push button, deployant closure with security clasp. Size by removing links with fine adjustments on the clasp. Very robust construction. Made to fit 1st and 2nd generation Seiko Orange Monster, Black Monster, etc.

        Note: It is recommended that you purchase a new set of Seiko C200FS pins for this bracelet if you don't have a set.
        Watch Features:
        • Color: Silver
        • Material: Stainless Steel Solid Links
        • Finish: Brushed
        • Ends: Straight
        • Length: N/A
        • Closure: Push Button Deployant Clasp
        These are what the pins look like, (they are not straight) they are wide at one end and the collar\pipe goes on the other end. Thanks Mike for your help.

        Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey...

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        • #6
          Can you put a picture of the watch up? If I have a version of the watch, I can pull a pin and collar and measure it.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by plasticsexpert View Post
            Can you put a picture of the watch up? If I have a version of the watch, I can pull a pin and collar and measure it.
            Thanks, that would be a great help...

            Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey...

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            • #8
              Originally posted by surelyuknow View Post

              Thanks, that would be a great help...

              I checked and don't have this model anymore. I only have the Seiko 5. It appears to have a different band.

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              • #9
                I found my Seiko Monster first generation. I took the bracelet apart and tried my best to measure the parts. I still have it dissected just in case. I hope this helps. If not let me know if you need more measurements Joel. I took the photos with my mobile device so they are not too great. I tried to do it on a paper towel with masking tape in case one tried to make an escape.










                https://www.esslinger.com/watch-band...riction-pipes/


                In the Esslinger drop down box this is the closest I could see.

                Pin is 90mm x 19mm (pin is 2nd from the top in drop down)

                pipe/sleeve to fit 90mm thick pin = 1.5mm x 1.15mm (pipe is the first line in the pipe choices)

                That 2.97 is throwing things off.

                "Flesh could not keep its glamour, nor eyes their sheen. They would go to nothing soon. But monsters are forever"



                “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
                If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.
                As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide".
                Abraham Lincoln

                Comment


                • #10
                  Originally posted by roadwarrior View Post
                  I found my Seiko Monster first generation. I took the bracelet apart and tried my best to measure the parts. I still have it dissected just in case. I hope this helps. If not let me know if you need more measurements Joel. I took the photos with my mobile device so they are not too great. I tried to do it on a paper towel with masking tape in case one tried to make an escape.










                  https://www.esslinger.com/watch-band...riction-pipes/


                  In the Esslinger drop down box this is the closest I could see.

                  Pin is 90mm x 19mm (pin is 2nd from the top in drop down)

                  pipe/sleeve to fit 90mm thick pin = 1.5mm x 1.15mm (pipe is the first line in the pipe choices)

                  That 2.97 is throwing things off.
                  Mike thank you so much, this is a great help. I think what I need is a .90 pipe. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again!
                  Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey...

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                  • surelyuknow
                    surelyuknow commented
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                    I think I must have done the same thing when sizing (way back when) as I have a couple collar\pipes missing. The strange thing is I've worn this Monster and it didn't fall apart until the other day, I guess I was lucky. I have 2 others that I need to check out to make sure they were sized correctly and then I'll order from Esslingers. Mike, you have been a great help and I really do appreciate you going the extra mile for me.

                  • roadwarrior
                    roadwarrior commented
                    Editing a comment
                    It was my pleasure Joel. I just hope they are the right ones you need. I took a shot on some screw and tube pins for my Kalmar 2 8000m from Esslinger and they arrived yesterday. Everything was fine with the length and thickness, but the head was slightly smaller than the ones Clemens supplies. When I tried them the whole thing just slides out through the lug holes by a hair.,

                  • surelyuknow
                    surelyuknow commented
                    Editing a comment
                    Yeah, aftermarket products can be difficult to exactly match the originals. The pins in the Seiko Monsters are slightly over 18mm but the ones Esslinger sells are 19mm. Luckily the pins that come in the bracelet are actually shorter than the links so the 19mm pins will fit. I ordered from Esslinger and got a shipping notice today. Hopefully these collar\pipes will fit the the original pins... fingers crossed.
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