Is this deal too good to be true????

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This is a tough one for me. 40mm case (they say but it is probably 41) 11mm thick 20mm hand winder shipped and tax included $76.04

Even just to compare, even just for something to expect in April.........even just to give away or play with....

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Seems like crazy value so must be too good to be true right?? am I right?? Too good to be true. Impossibly hard to resist for me even as I wait for the Dekla. As I said this is a tough one for me to resist.

Tell me this must be too good to be true........right??
 
I see daily "deals" like this at AliExpress. It could cost them under $50.00 to make them, if that.



 
I see daily "deals" like this at AliExpress. It could cost them under $50.00 to make them, if that.



That is where I found the deal .
 
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20atm 200 meters water resistant diving watches Luminous automatic diver watches 316L stainless steel case
Key Words20ATM 200 meters water resistant diving watches
StyleClassic
Glass MaterialHardened Mineral Crystal,Sapphire Crystal,Hard Plexiglass,Other
Glass Shape Flat,Curved,Domed,Other
Case Material316L Stainless Steel
CoatingPVD-Gold,rose gold,black etc
Band MaterialGenuine Leather Strap,Stainless steel,Nato,Silicone,etc
MovementJapan or Swiss automatic Movement
Power Reserve42 hours
Water Resistant20ATM/200 meters Water Resistant
Case Diameter46.0mm*17.0mm Standard Size/Customized Size
Band Width22.0mm
Logo Printing PositionDial, Crown, Back Case, Clasp, Strap etc
MOQ300pcs-500pcs
ColorCustomized Color: silver,black,gold,rose gold, etc


20atm 200 meters water resistant diving watches Luminous automatic diver watches 316L stainless steel case
20atm 200 meters water resistant diving watches Luminous automatic diver watches 316L stainless steel case
20atm 200 meters water resistant diving watches Luminous automatic diver watches 316L stainless steel case
20atm 200 meters water resistant diving watches Luminous automatic diver watches 316L stainless steel case
20atm 200 meters water resistant diving watches Luminous automatic diver watches 316L stainless steel case
20atm 200 meters water resistant diving watches Luminous automatic diver watches 316L stainless steel case


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SEA GULL FLY ON WINGS OF PRC
it's " real " chinese seagull

i digress in glorious revolution bolsheviks seized name trademark factories in motherland... so movements in russia produced by newly acquired factories in the name of the people were the same as the swiss originals the factories were there for low labor and production... the machines were the same

fast forward towards the far eastern border where from whence ghengis khan and hordes infiltrated russia on fast sturdy ponies CHAIRMAN'S LITTLE RED BOOK OF SAYINGS would roll over beethoven if he could see state managed capitalism wrapped in totalitarian civilian regime

yeah... the chinese SEAGULLS are really good... suggestion... take your time on alibaba.com...many stores are confusing...only with 100% RATING

REMBEMBER ...guard your data scraping is legal in USA and PEOPLES REPUBLIC...read a few BRUSHING SCAM googles

honestly USC gonna be caring trout at a trout farm...KEEP AT IT PAY FOR THE SWISS UNITAS UPGRADE AND HOLD THEM TO IT

...SO both are very good chinese seagull and RUSSIAN 3602 ? look on e-bay for russian marriage mechanicals... don't be afraid of UKRAINE...they work and are backed by PAYPAL AND E-BAY...

between $50 and $100...many/most served by watch maker guaranteed...as for "old stuff " i'm not a believer... shellac, new printed dials, new cases, all the copies are very good...and I DO NOT BUY THEM IS THEY CLAIM TO BE A 100 YEAR OLD FAMOUS TRADEMARK... because real ones would be black dial with dirt
 
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it's " real " chinese seagull

i digress in glorious revolution bolsheviks seized name trademark factories in motherland... so movements in russia produced by newly acquired factories in the name of the people were the same as the swiss originals the factories were there for low labor and production... the machines were the same

fast forward towards the far eastern border where from whence ghengis khan and hordes infiltrated russia on fast sturdy ponies CHAIRMAN'S LITTLE RED BOOK OF SAYINGS would roll over beethoven if he could see state managed capitalism wrapped in totalitarian civilian regime

yeah... the chinese SEAGULLS are really good... suggestion... take your time on alibaba.com...many stores are confusing...only with 100% RATING

REMBEMBER ...guard your data scraping is legal in USA and PEOPLES REPUBLIC...read a few BRUSHING SCAM googles

honestly USC gonna be caring trout at a trout farm...KEEP AT IT PAY FOR THE SWISS UNITAS UPGRADE AND HOLD THEM TO IT

...SO both are very good chinese seagull and RUSSIAN 3602 ? look on e-bay for russian marriage mechanicals... don't be afraid of UKRAINE...they work and are backed by PAYPAL AND E-BAY...

between $50 and $100...many/most served by watch maker guaranteed...as for "old stuff " i'm not a believer... shellac, new printed dials, new cases, all the copies are very good...and I DO NOT BUY THEM IS THEY CLAIM TO BE A 100 YEAR OLD FAMOUS TRADEMARK... because real ones would be black dial with dirt
Everything isn't always a conspiracy or black and white Scotty. There are just as many predators stateside. Like I would tell my family who moved across the river because they felt it was safer than Philly. You leave your door open and invite the snakes in, let me know what happens. In my neck of the woods I'll always be on my toes.
 
Everything isn't always a conspiracy or black and white Scotty. There are just as many predators stateside. Like I would tell my family who moved across the river because they felt it was safer than Philly. You leave your door open and invite the snakes in, let me know what happens. In my neck of the woods I'll always be on my toes.
no dis agree...take ROBERT BLAKE

IN COLD BLOOD ... TRUMAN CAPOTE...CLUTTER farm house middle of no where KANSAS they slept with doors un-locked...the rest is true... a book... a movie

honestly...as I watch westerns from the 60's a violent sociopath psychopath seems a necessary plot element...frauds and scams as old as 3-card monty on the pyramids

plus with russia and china e-bay PayPal double guarantee ALFRED E-NEUMANN WHAT ME WORRY ?
 
It's usually a good idea to educate oneself before carting anything, not just watches.
I agree. :up: Sometimes though you never really know until you have the actual experience but past experiences ares no guarantee. Experience is a good teacher yet sometimes we don't learn and fall into the same trap. Then again sometimes we don't.
 
I have emptied the cart and will pass on any further Chinese education. Thanks.
USC i had maybe 6 from aliexpress.com and a few from UKRAINE... as smart as u aliexpress.com should be no problem...they work and work good...for $50 to $100 you might wear the seagull to a ball game ...big box site...and leave the ZELOS UNITAS home

in fact honest I am hunting for CuSn8 UNITAS 47mm currently...i was shocked to luv the CuSn8 TND FLIEGER... it's a nice metal...heavy...and the copper content feels like I am receiving signals from the outer limits...

so HU and shop with care...and watch your data that's all...best bargains are from china... no environmental laws- no labor laws- no trademark laws-state sponsored capitalism... shake them up out pops cheap watches quality pretty good...just find the good stores 100%

SAN MARTIN, STEEL DIVE..and look at the ratings...some of the " STORES " be careful...must be 100% rating , open at least a few years,multiple transactions . and be patient for coupons and holidays worshipping the moon
 
final p.s. notice no lume ...lowest cost seagulls $50-$70 but a crisp " enamel " dial...i got a low end seagull with lume...and i wonder if they use commercial luminova...for painting signs in warehouses etc... RADIUM GIRLS on NETFLIX
 
It's hard to get a feel on anything without a decent amount of transactions.
I'm far from an expert nor do I act like there is really any method for a positive outcome. I've rolled the dice since 2009 and things always had a positive ending.

The sad thing is unfortunately I can't say the same about things purchased here in the USA.
 

Is AliExpress Legit?

Much like any other eCommerce platform, AliExpress is a web portal for shopping. However, it is a Chinese website available for people worldwide to order anything. It is a branch of Alibaba Group as a retail branch.

The primary aspect of AliExpress is to offer direct sales from manufacturers to customers. Over the years, it has developed into a conventional eCommerce with B2B, B2C, C2C, etc. In other words, almost anyone can sell anything on AliExpress now.

Therefore, as far as the credibility of AliExpress goes, it is a legit platform. The same can’t be said for the products available on AliExpress. As it is an open-platform now, you will find various dealers, manufacturers, and business owners using this service. The chances of counterfeited products have drastically increased, especially since the platform is from China.

Primarily, you will come across China dealers, regardless of which part of the world you’re buying from. It is to boost China’s economy and to help local business people. Therefore, it can take several days (10-30) for you to receive the order. Many premium companies and Chinese brands like Huawei also utilize AliExpress to showcase their products and sell them.

You can compare AliExpress to Amazon and other big eCommerce websites available across the world. It is a multi-billion dollar company but doesn’t have substantial control over the quality of the goods.

Overall, if you’re worried about a scamming website, AliExpress is not one of those. It is an authentic website with proper security and payment methods. The objective of AliExpress is to connect you to the dealers in Chinese for you to buy your things.


Therefore, AliExpress’s policies, safety, and other aspects might seem a little ‘gray’ or ‘shady.’ However, there’s no denying that it is a 100% legal platform. You will learn more about it as you read ahead.


Always Compare The Pricing

Think of this step as a general rule of thumb for online shopping. It applies to AliExpress and every other platform. Always compare the pricing of the product. As AliExpress is a hub to multiple business owners and manufacturers, you will most likely find the same option at cheaper rates with other dealers. However, at that point, you also have to check reviews to ensure it is a genuine dealer.

Comparing the prices can lead you to save some extra bucks. Some might have an expensive product but free shipping and vice versa. It’s because they secretly cover it in some way.

However, it’s better to have separate charges for shipping and the product. It prevents you from having any legal repercussions. Remember, as you are importing goods, it will never have free shipping.

Too Good To Be True Rule

This is a crucial point to remember. If the deal seems too cheap and ‘too good to be true,’ the chances are, it will be a fake deal. Either the product would arrive damaged, or not what you expected.

The information is often misleading. Instead of selling a 64 GB memory card, you might receive a 64GB card with 32 or 40GB space. That is a possibility.

Similarly, you might receive an utterly fake product. Remember, you’re on a Chinese platform, and due to the low production cost, you might get something slightly cheaper than others, but a massively cheap deal is just a red flag. You can gamble away if you’d like. However, it’s not advisable.

Don’t Opt For A Brand.

Never contemplate brands on AliExpress. China has always been a hub for counterfeited products. If you order anything branded, you will most certainly receive a fake copy of the product. If the dealer is selling you any branded option at the same or even cheaper price, believe it! It’s going to be a fake copy.

As a general rule, you are looking for useful products that are of high value for money. You have to forget about brands and genuine dealers. Your aim should be to get the ‘bang for your bucks.’ In other words, the best deals on the item you want at the budget you have. That’s the benefit of AliExpress. Play in favor of its key strengths, not against it.

Authenticate The Product & Seller

You can conduct a Google search or use other methods like contacting the seller to see whether they are genuine or not. Alternatively, always check the product image and see if it’s a copy or not. High-resolution photos are better to help you make the decision. Furthermore, read the description of the product.

The first step to finding mistakes would be the grammar mistake. Any authentic dealer would avoid grammatical errors. Next would be to check the essential information. Some dealers hide specific details. Check for the fine prints, and remember, the devil is in the details.

As mentioned before, check the reviews, don’t gamble on the product with low or no reviews. There’s no reason for you to fall for a brand.

Guarantees And Policies

Finally, always check to see if the dealer is offering any warranty on the product. Most Chinese products don’t come with any guarantee—however, some dealers, to build strong customer relations, offer money-back guarantees and what not. AliExpress also authenticates and certifies the dealers. Those would be the ones that you prioritize.

Of course, if dealers are offering additional guarantees or warranties, it will positively play in your favor. Primarily, you wouldn’t have to make the ‘Dispute’ claim on AliExpress. So, it will save both you and the dealer some headaches. Both you and the dealer can settle the problem without any problem.

There might be some fake or fraudulent dealers, but there are equally genuine dealers working to earn honest income and boost their company.

Taxes & Customs

Aliexpress allows you to purchase goods from anywhere across the world, especially China. Therefore, as the goods arrive in your country, there will be unavoidable charges.

You will get VAT or Goods & Service Tax. In short, it is the tax that ‘customs’ will charge you for the importing of the goods, whatever it is. The rate of import tax varies according to the country. For example, in the EU, you have to pay around 20% of the VAT on the goods you get outside the country.

Now, there are two methods this can be handled. Most of the courier (cross-country) service providers will handle it by themself. They will add the charge of the shipment to your overall order.

Additionally, they may even charge you extra for the convenience fees. The convenience fees are what you pay these shipment service providers for handling the tax and customs for you. So, if there is a free shipment offer on AliExpress, it might be too good to be true. It would be best if you varied about it.

Many sellers often send the package as a gift from their country to another country. As a result, some packages are more comfortable to pass through the custom without tax. When this happens, you are receiving the goods illegally without paying the tax. Are there, backlashes? Most likely not, as long as customs don’t catch it.

Sometimes, sellers use other similar methods to bypass the taxes for you. As a result, if it gets seized, you don’t have to take the blame. As long as you have the right documentation, you can work around it. However, customs may seize the order, and you might have to visit them and fulfill the tax and duty payment.

Customs can also seize your order if:

  • The order declares a lower value than it is, and customs catch it.
  • Documentations are missing from the order.
  • The item you ordered doesn’t meet the rules and regulations of your country. For example, ordering a weapon that your country doesn’t allow.
  • Counterfeiting or unauthorized order.

Is It Safe To Purchase From AliExpress?

AliExpress is a prevalent website worldwide as a multi-billion dollar company with millions of satisfied customers. Every day, it receives thousands of orders with successful payment gateways.

It utilizes high-grade AI technology, cloud security, and other integrations. As long as you use AliExpress, it will automate shopping once you make the payment.

There is a company’s owned shipment facility and the standard shipment facility. Both of them will give you an order number, the ability to track your order, and other essential notifications. There’s a refund and return policy in Aliexpress, which might take longer, but it is active.

Let’s take a look at the two different aspects of Ali Express that makes it safe:

AliExpress Buyer Protection

AliExpress practices a firm policy known as buyer protection for its users. It is a fixed amount of time you get after you’ve initiated an order after purchase. Usually, it used to be a shorter time frame, but the company has increased the buyer’s protection duration to 90 days after the recent pandemic. Now, what does it mean?

It is essentially a 90-days money back (refund) policy for you. You can extend the days by going to your account or wait for the item to arrive. Of course, if the item doesn’t arrive within the given timeslot, you can contact the support team to rectify the problem.
 
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